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Lucy the Axe & potential Origins Of Woodies Idols

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First off- I said I wasn’t going to make anymore threads throughout 2020, I know that but.. I am and I have, And with my whole town being pretty much on lockdown due to Virus concerns I’ve had plenty of time to sit and theorize about this. 

First off you can find the original Discussion about this where I brought it up here: in Minespatchs thread asking Klei to create a comic explaining the origins of Woodies new found Transformation Idols.

Now that JoeW said that I could create a new thread to discuss other potential Woodie lore & Theories I would like to do just exactly that, Only this time Instead of just a big wall of Text I would like to provide gifs from various sources as well as in-game images to support my Theory.

In Minespatchs Thread I stated that we didn’t actually NEED a comic detailing the origins of Woodies Idols because the Origins can be as simple as items LUCY his Red Talking Axe whispered into his ear to Create & also use.

This would certainly not be the FIRST Time a Don't Starve character listened to Advice from outside of their own thoughts and opinions, Observed here in GIF 1- Wilson is having second thoughts about pulling this lever but does so anyway.  

In the second photo, This is Woodie Examining his Werebeaver Idol In-Game.

Some Forum goers have brought up the suggestion that Lucy doesn’t actually talk and that it’s all in Woodies head, there is a Quote in the game that supports this Theory that provides homage to the horror movie classic the Shining.. The Quote in the Game is written as “All work and No play makes me want to chop trees” the Actual Movie scene Quote is “All work and no play makes jack a dull boy” This is a moment in the film where the main character starts to spiral into insanity and types that exact quote for hundreds of pages into his type writer. As seen in the second GiF provided below.

Is this Klei’s way of hinting that Woodie is crazy and it’s all in his head like the shinings Jack? 

I’m about to debunk that suggestion Completely by providing some pretty hard to dismiss facts.

First off Lucy doesn’t just TALK to Woodie she talks to Non-Woodie characters, and straight up refuses to let them pick her up.. which would Imply that Lucy has her own identity and is not just something made up in Woodies own head.. Maxwell even has a Quote that implies he’s known Lucy for quite sometime.

However... it is clear that Lucy DOES manifest some sort of Super Natural powers or control over Woodie because as seen in his Animated short even with 3 powerful transformations at his disposal Woodie gets pummeled into the ground within in an inch of his life and left defeated with obviously some broken bones.. Once he reaches out and grabs hold of Lucy he quickly recovers from all Injuries like he’s Superman and disposed of his Foe.

Lastly It is extremely obvious that Lucy is its own Soul or entity rather.. and LUCY is Woodies REAL Curse, not his Transformation Idols... Because No Matter How Many Normal Axes Woodie Creates as soon he attempts to chop wood with it Lucy swaps places with the regular axe.

(also do keep in mind that in Solo DS, Chopping too much wood using Lucy was what triggers his curse to begin with)

As seen in the following Gif of me crafting lots of regular axes, attempting to use them and then dropping them as soon as they turn into Lucy for a new one.

And finally in the last Gif does Lucy swapping places with that regular Axe remind you guys of anything at all? Wortox SOUL Hopping maybe??

So in Conclusion: If LUCY has her own SOUL and is its own entity & is NOT something made up and completely in Woodies own head.. then is it really unreasonable to believe that LUCY told Woodie how to create the Transformation Idols & use them? Woodie wouldn’t second guess his beloved Axe Lucy!

I just wish Wortox’s Quote For examining Lucy was a little more helpful in supporting this Theory.

It could be something like:

“Lucy is an Axe with a Soul & Chopping stuff is her goal!”

Please feel free to share your own thoughts about this! Thanks. :) 

 

 

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A LOAD of theorizing!

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Alright, so when adventure mode ends Maxwell dies

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but then when the Cyclum Puzzle starts, he's alive and not a demon guy.

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his super black magic stuff doesn't work anymore!

I got no idea what happened for Maxwell to end up back in the constant, but I am pretty sure it happened during Charlie's rule (right? cause if he ever met up w/ Wilson it must have been after Wilson was released from the throne, by Charlie). 

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Right, and then when adventure mode ends, you return to your original world as Maxwell. (anyone else get kinda creeped out by this?)

His quote upon switching w/ Wilson, "Freedom at last!", wouldn't make sense whatsoever if he were simply put back in the cruddy wilderness he does not appear to like or even understand, right? Singleplayer or together are scattered with "Don't you recognize me?" or "Woah what's that, why would that be there?! I didn't make that!" type examinations respectively.

also, I think it's very safe to say that the game makes a lot of story exceptions for the sake of being a story, vice versa.

I'm very confident that Maxwell intended to sucker Wilson onto the throne, not only that, I think Maxwell went back to the real world and was somehow taken back to the Constant after exiting through Wilson's (might I remind you, still standing) portal. 

It would make sense, right?

I also think the other "survivors" died and came back through the portal, so I thought it might be worth mentioning that he has a survivor skin on, and that he is also shown killing clockworks in the (I believe) doorway to adventure update video.

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(fun fact: strange new powers has some extremely short blurbs of letters that can be arranged to spell NOTHING SPECIAL twice, there is also a random, all lower case "bit.", I don't know if anyone else has also painstakingly found those, but I wasted my time on that yesterday)

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I ALSO want to point out that the portal was "jury rigged" and there was a blueprint Wilson found to make one. This could relate to a large range of creators between Maxwell (I REALLY doubt it) Wagstaff (I REALLY THINK IT WAS HIS) and Them or something like think (I doubt this too!).

I think this could really explain Wagstaff's role in the plot a lot more, and his obvious enthusiasm for portals. His inspection quotes hint that he DOES know a lot about how portals can be made, but not enough to create a complete one. He even makes like a dozen comments expressing his desire to communicate Maxwell, which would make sense since Maxwell's knowledge is what helped Wilson get the portal truly working. I also would like to mention that there is a VERY GOOD CHANCE that Wagstaff entered the consant before Wilson.

And side note, Webber too, since Wilson literally finds his skull and digs him a grave in RoG, because he deserved a "proper funeral". (if Webber is even canon but... cmon.) I also think Wolfgang was teleported before Wilson too, but sort of a hunch. 

Wes too, (duuh) I don't even think he is canon though, or he doesn't play a notable role in the story.

I think the characters that will relate to the story we might get more knowledge about will be:

Mactusk (others have said he MIGHT be Maxwell's old boss, or other people he knows.)

Woodie (haha probably not actually but he has a missing poster in Next of Kin so I guess maybe?)

Wickerbottom (New York Library burned down in Next of Kin newspaper, plus rework stuff.)

 

There are a few things that throw this stuff off, inspections for Maxwell on ghosts, skeletons, pipspooks (also wanted to mention, those three words "I'm so sorry." could make me cry.) but that could be another mystery entirely. Just how many people have been brought over?

I also think that time is messed up a lot when it comes to what year/day someone came to the Constant, so I am ignoring Winona's entrance compared to Wagstaff's entrance, or maybe return? I don't know. Please share some more thoughts!

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Side note on the Wagstaff thing, it also helps that Wagstaff might have been added to highlight his existence beyond an extremely old 'on the fly announcement' a lot of us haven't seen. 

Non-existent file?

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My game keeps crashing on the mods screen. I looked into the client log and saw the line

[00:12:28]: Did not find the ugc handle in the cache. This is likely because you're subscribed to a non-existent file 538882876

How do I deal with this?

Abby nerf?

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Aww man I was very excited about the butterfly farm. Now Abby don't seem to attack butterflies now maybe because they are harmless creatures? 
I mean this is pretty op as it can replace berry bushes. I'm able to get like 13 butterfly wings in a span of 3-5 minutes. Reason why it's good because each butterfly wings heals 8 and is a filler. Also you can feed it to werepigs for poop.

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Powerful boss

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klei, you guys are really geniuses!I personally feel that the crab king launched this time is very strong.There are also some interesting mechanisms, such as different gems will have different combat effects.

I like the feeling of challenging this powerful boss with friends.It ’s powerful and dangerous. It takes a lot of hard work to knock it down. Just personally, I like this feeling.

Maybe i can expect that the previous BOSS can also get refresh? XD

You can also look forward to launching new powerful bosses in land or underground caves in the future.Like dragons?I mean real dragons like Smaug in the Hobbit. Xp

I really like your creativity,makes me very excited:D.

Of course, this is my own personal opinion. Welcome friends in the community to share their opinions.

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Community Choice Vignette - Wortox - Possessions

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Hey all,

We hope you enjoyed participating in the Community Choice Vignette for Winona's short, Next of Kin. Thank you all for joining in and nominating your favorite scenes. The winning nomination ended up with 100 votes!

In case you missed how this works, we’ll post a thread for one of the animated shorts with a link to YouTube, and you can nominate your favorite scene by posting a screenshot. Cast your vote by giving one or more of the nominated scenes an emoji response. After a week we'll tally up the results and add a Vignette based on the winning scene into a future build of the game.

Try to avoid nominating a similar scene to one that's already been posted. We'll remove nominations if we feel they are too similar to an existing nomination or the Vignette we already made, or in the case of shenanigans ;) 


The next short is Wortox's short, Possessions. Plenty of great scenes in it to choose from!

 

Our choice for the Vignette was...

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How to Recover My Server

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I accdentally deleted my 300+ day server. I was going to test something on a different server. And all the server slots were full. I deleted my original server instead of useless ones by mistake. And then created a new world on its slot. Is it possible to recover it back or is it gone for good? 

Is Valentines Charlie's Holiday to send a message to Maxwell?


Dear Klei, can we have Saladmander younglings as critters?

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Perhaps this has been requested by other users previously, but we figured there's no harm in making it a public suggestion. 

3 summers ago, my friend and I explored the Lunar Biome with the intention of getting some Moon Moths to have Mothlings for critters. It was meant to be a grab n go journey/expedition, but when we arrived at the island, we fell in love with the place so much so we stayed there for the entire summer just exploring the place and watching the inhabitants on the island interact. 

One creature that particularly caught our eyes and gave us many d'aww moments were the Saladmanders that inhabited the island. While they weren't exactly appealing to us at first sight, they grew on us over time that we made frequent trips to Lunar Island just to see them once in awhile. We like how these somewhat feisty creatures look when they sleep and how cute they are when they run , and those very adorable moments when you have a thermal stone on you and it follows you for a bit until the stone wears out its power. 

We can't say this enough, we think these reptiles are extremely cute and they would make such good bois in the form of babies. Though they are pretty smol already, we do hope we can see a critter form of these guys. Our take on the saladmanders?

They could have the ability to scare off creatures their size if they ever attack you, a nod to their rather feisty natures when enraged, though one at a time and it won't deter naturally hostile mobs from following you. We think it might be a tad bit OP if your critters could scare off small mobs like Spiders, Catcoons, Frogs, though we hope the one-at-a-time mechanics is a good balance. Not sure about Bees, but if they do, they'd probably be only to scare one at a time until they're dead too. 

It's totally fine if they don't have any special abilities like the Mothlings, we just want to interact with these good bois without having to kill them.

We just want the devs they've made our day with the creation of Saladmanders in the game. Thank you for reading!

 

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Community Choice Vignette - Willow - From the Ashes

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Hey all,

We hope you've been enjoying the Return of Them Beta: She Sells Sea Shells, and thank you for all the bug reports! Also, thank you all for joining in and nominating your favorite scenes for Wortox's short, Possessions. It was a close battle between several great choices!

In case you missed how this works, we’ll post a thread for one of the animated shorts with a link to YouTube, and you can nominate your favorite scene by posting a screenshot. Cast your vote by giving one or more of the nominated scenes an emoji response. After a week we'll tally up the results and add a Vignette based on the winning scene into a future build of the game.

Try to avoid nominating a similar scene to one that's already been posted. We'll remove nominations if we feel they are too similar to an existing nomination or the Vignette we already made, or in the case of shenanigans ;)


The next short is Willow 's short, From the Ashes. Plenty of great scenes in it to choose from!


Our choice for the Vignette was...

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Shadow pieces without any speed boost?

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Hi,

I am currently trying to defeat the shadow pieces, but I do not have access to speed boost (they are to hard to get for me). Can anyone tell me the order in which I should kill the shadow pieces and the amount of log suits / pierogis I will need? Thank you!

Items without skins

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So, With all of the recent twitch drops and Skin packs that have been coming out.
A lot of the structures and items we make on a daily basis now have skins, but there are still items we use that dont have skins yet!
So Im making this post for people to comment on what items they want skins for the most, or just what still need skins in general.

Things I was thinking of is:
-Fish-Scale-o-matic
-Cobble Stone Turf
-Moon Glass Tools
-The Gem Amulets (Blue, Green, Yellow, Purple, Orange)
-The Whirly Fan :wilson_sneaky:

A bundler?

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So now the devs have included a item that can change skin by whim but with the design of a broom, I was certain it was going to be a auto-stocker.

Perhaps in the future we can have a better broom that sweeps areas around that helps people who have to deal with bosses like the bearger. Yes, there's the lazy Forager but what about areas that have mass destruction but not having to hold the items to clean up?

my next new character idea

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Batilisks get no love these days, understandably so because they are rats with wings and annoy me. But what if they didnt?
memes aside my new character idea/theory is that it could be a batilisk based character, capable of befriending batilisks and having batilisk themed crafts unique to them like makeshift batilisk dens or something of the sort.
what would their stats and perks be? i think their stats would be; health - 145 hunger - 120 sanity - 100 and their perks would be; loses less sanity at dusk or flat out doesnt receive a drain at dust at all, and 20% less sanity drain when its night, or 5-10%, if you think 20% is too high.
they would be able to eat monster meat and would be attacked on sight by normally neutral mobs
an effect like the cowl from hamlet in the caves, where in dark spots it uses cowl effect, not giving you immunity to things in the dark but instead allowing you to "see" things hiding out of sight.
What do you guys think?

I have to post this before I forget it.

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Ok so, every Winter's Feast the giants get a festive redesign right? Well with the introduction of the Crab King, I am 99.97% certain that he will get a Christmas Tree redesign. I'm even willing to bet that instead of gems, you need to put ornaments on him to start the fight too. Although......I could be wrong too....so what do you guys think? I should mention this is not a suggestion, merely just speculation.  

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Ideas for a few new items to drop for Crab King.

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Hello everyone! Recently we got announced a new boss named the Crab King, some type of giant stone Crab hiding in apparently the ruins of a castle, that has the ability to use the power of the gems to their liking, they don't however really have much of a unique drop based on what I've seen so I wanted to make a topic to see any interesting ideas others had to making the Crab Kings loot drop more interesting.

To start off, Here's a few things I made up that could be nice!

Credit goes to @Instant-Noodles for the in-game gifs (Thank you @Instant-Noodles for getting these :D)

Maybe When the King Crab dies it drops some "Castle Fragments" from the Crab Kings shell,crab_king_fix_left_1.thumb.gif.9eeabafaff1c3c8469f2fb308cc58e9f.thumb.gif.e5c77ecb0f3319ef50b493c083e81743.gif or maybe even some unattached crab limb from the arms that come out from the sea belowcrab_king_claw_idle.gif.3be91773015c33a3772ad7e19a3c242c.gif.a1123d627a5185ababc4689044c839f1.gif

So for the first item I made is the "Crustation Crown"20200418_105036.thumb.jpg.bd3dcedd411a3250f4c0f91b1bbb72c9.jpg

(or maybe a better name) would be a major good item too use after the fight. It would work extremely similar to how the crab king uses it's gem mechanic, whatever gem you have socketed in the crown would give you an buff or increase in your stats, maybe like a increase in damage or health when using a red gem for example.

A second Idea i thought could be using the castle Fragments to make castle walls for decoration and base building, they could possible be the strongest wall, or maybe they take reduce damage or something. Here was my sketch idea:20200418_105047.thumb.jpg.f4fc8e680f3829a645eb5dd75bc0ad80.jpg

My third idea was basically a shield, made from castle Fragments, that could possibly tank damage or reflect/nullify projectiles if you block with good timing. 

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And my final idea is my second favorite: this claw pinching thing made from the crab arms,20200418_105058.thumb.jpg.c7189afdcf4edd48de5b157372166315.jpg

The joke is that it's supposed to look like one of those grabbing toy's,  maybe the survivors could use it to grab things out of reach on sea, can be used as a long range weapon as well (maybe even using the unimplemented spear jab animation) my idea was that maybe this could be used as a heavy attack weapon potentially with the ability to pinch at opponents causing them to get stunned similar to the forge but that might be a bit too op...

Those were my ideas so far, But I'd really like to hear ideas from other people! Any suggestions you'd like to see come from the Crab King?

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Request to make "Creepy Forest" appear more in-game.

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Personally? I think Creepy Forest is a great song that doesn't get enough recognition. Before I even had any Don't Starve games I used to listen to the soundtrack all the time, so when I found out Creepy Forest wasn't actually in-game, it made me sad, since it's one of my favorites. This was pretty confusing for me, since it fit the game's mood so well. I know it was used for trailers, but now it doesn't have any purpose, like D.R. Style. So, in light of the fact that Klei added the song as ambience music for the Hermit's house at night, I, and I think many other people, would like it if it appeared in other places. Maybe use it if you're planning something big like a new continent biome, a new mode or just anything that asks for new music. Here, have a listen: 

 

How exactly does Klei work on updates?

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So as someone who often throws suggestions at Klei I was curious as to how Klei pumps out updates?

Do you already have all of RoT planned? Or is it more like: 'Alright guys <update name> is out! What do we do next?'

As I said, I like posting new ideas, concepts etc, But if Klei already has all of RoT planned ahead then I might as well not post them, right?

final character ideas?

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what do you guys think the next character will be? my friends are hoping its a volt goat like character

All Bosses Guide - Solo

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Hello there, i know i'm not active here as much as i used too but i know some of you still appreciate my content here and there and i felt this might help a lot of you, specially those who might play DST alone.

I tend to not reply much on posts anymore, but i will try to answer any doubt or questions that might come up from this video since it's about helping you defeat those big and scary bosses.

Enjoy
 

 

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